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TheDiggler
QUOTE(wheel @ 10-20-05, 1:06pm)
732668# Manual Reboot of Unit
a.k.a. REBOOT# wink.gif
cron
QUOTE(georgi55 @ 10-14-05, 3:44pm)
Do you guys know about CallPacket? They have 100 mins free everymonth
only during October, you get real phone number and they have lots more features
than VOIP buster or Stanaphone (like caller ID, 3 way, etc)

https://www.callpacket.com/


Seems like it's getting popular because of that 100 minutes per month.

You can get a free phone number for CA, OR, WA, or NV. Assign your new phone number to one in those states to get a free one. That way you can get in on the free promotion and not have to pay for their services.

I signed up just in case it ever is handy. You don't have to provide a credit card.
wheel
QUOTE(cron @ 10-20-05, 4:09pm)
Seems like it's getting popular because of that 100 minutes per month.

You can get a free phone number for CA, OR, WA, or NV.  Assign your new phone number to one in those states to get a free one.  That way you can get in on the free promotion and not have to pay for their services.

I signed up just in case it ever is handy.  You don't have to provide a credit card.
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You need to change the following setting to be able to get your VoiceMail - *86

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Regional:
Remove Call Back Deact Code: *86, this way you could use *86 to check your VM
ungsunghero
Hmmm...I just tried calling my Stanaphone # again, and the software prog prompted me to accept the call (nothing from the phone connected to the PAP2).

I fiddled around the settings in the PAP2, and eventually re-typed my user/pass, and it worked just fine again.

About an hour later, I tried calling my Stanaphone # again, and this time, I got "stanaphone account holder not available...please leave a message." Again, for some reason, re-typing the user/pass fixed the problem.

Anyone have this problem, or something similar?
vickh
VOIPBUSTER still not working with pap2 it's been 3 days. sad.gif

VOIPBUSTER Software phone and callpacket works fine
cron
QUOTE(vickh @ 10-21-05, 8:50pm)
VOIPBUSTER still not working with pap2 it's been 3 days. sad.gif

VOIPBUSTER Software phone and callpacket works fine


I guess it could take more than a few days...

The only weird things is that you actually have callpacket running. So, it sounds like the adapter settings are fine.

I would just recheck your settings on that line. In the menu of the PAP2 does it say that Voipbuster registered state is "online"? Also, make sure that it's selected at Line enable.

Does the phone you are using actually work with the pap2? Dial **** and then 110#. If it connects and reads you off the IP address. It probably works fine.

Username is case sensitive for Voipbuster. Also, if you've changed your password with voipbuster, the servers might technically still be using the original one you used.

If i think of a few more things, i'll post back.
vickh
QUOTE(cron @ 10-21-05, 9:06pm)
I guess it could take more than  a few days...

The only weird things is that you actually have callpacket running.  So, it sounds like the adapter settings are fine.


I would just recheck your settings on that line.  In the menu of the PAP2 does it say that  Voipbuster registered state is "online"? Also, make sure that it's selected at Line enable.


 
Does the phone you are using actually work with the pap2?  Dial **** and then 110#.  If it connects and reads you off the IP address.  It probably works fine.


Username is case sensitive for Voipbuster.  Also, if you've changed your password with voipbuster, the servers might technically still be using the original one you used.

If i think of a few more things, i'll post back.
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checked all of the above sad.gif bang.gif

how about these settings?
SIP Port:
SIP 100REL Enable:
EXT SIP Port:
cron
QUOTE(vickh @ 10-22-05, 1:15am)
how about these settings?
SIP Port: 
SIP 100REL Enable:
EXT SIP Port:


in my config I didn't touch any of those settings. Only the one's mentioned in the Voipbuster post in a previous post.

I'll see if i can dig up some alternative settings.

I believe on BBR some people were using sip.voipbuster.com for proxy/outbound proxy instead of stun.voipbuster.com/nat.voiptalk.org. Not sure if that makes any difference. But worth a shot.

Just make sure you remember any settings you change. Because if you reset to factory default, you need to make sure you have it disconnected from the internet and turn off provisioning or it will talk to Vonage and lock itself permanently(unless you copied the GPPK key and config file)
wheel
If you are using the PAP2 with Call Packet, do not flash the firmware past 3.1.3, otherwise you won't be able to get a call from a phone with Caller ID blocked. Went back to old firmware and all is well.
savemypenny1
QUOTE(cron @ 10-23-05, 12:30pm)
in my config I didn't touch any of those settings.  Only the one's mentioned in the Voipbuster post in a previous post.

I'll see if i can dig up some alternative settings.

I believe on BBR some people were using sip.voipbuster.com  for proxy/outbound  proxy instead of stun.voipbuster.com/nat.voiptalk.org.  Not sure if that makes any difference.  But worth a shot. 

Just make sure you remember any settings you change.  Because if you reset to factory default, you need to make sure you have it disconnected from the internet or it will talk to Vonage and lock itself permanently(unless you copied the GPPK key and config file)
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thanks cron, finally worked after changing proxy/outbound proxy to sip.voipbuster.com

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vickh
QUOTE(savemypenny1 @ 10-23-05, 12:01pm)
thanks cron, finally worked after changing proxy/outbound proxy to sip.voipbuster.com

banana.gif
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ditto mango.gif
Krunk
I signed up for CallPacket (which has now return to TelePacket) back in October and finally got around to setting up my account. I just noticed this:

Free Incoming Minutes
Free Minutes:99999 USA and Canada Minutes
Available Free Minutes: 99997 USA and Canada Minutes

I just used 2 mins to test it. I personally don't remember what plan I signed up for, but ungsunghero thinks it was 100 free incoming/outgoing per month.

However 99999 minutes can't be per month since that's equivalent to almost 70 days of non-stop talking.

What I'm curious about is does that mean once I use up all 99999 minutes, I'd need to switch over to a regular plan?

Just curious what others are seeing.

//krunk (^_^x)
georgi55
The free plan was 100 outgoing and unlimited incoming.
georgi55
Is there any reason to upgrade firmware to v3.1.6 from v3.1.3?
cron
They're on 3.1.7 now. Supposedly there aren't on major changes from 3.1.6.
Edit: Apparently 3.1.7 should not be upgraded to. (Removed 3.1.7 config file)

Mine seems to work better after i upgraded from 3.1.3 to 3.1.6. That might be mostly a result of the configuration changes mentioned in the last few pages, but it's pretty reliable on 3.1.6
TheDiggler
It's stronly recommended that you NOT upgrade to 3.1.7 (i.e. stick with 3.1.6 or earlier). There are lengthy discussions on BroadBandReports how 3.1.7 now prevents firmware updates from being applied w/ merely "USER" access.

Thus, ifyou accidentally FACTORY RESET an adapter upgraded to 3.1.7 (which re-locks the adapter), you may not be able to unlock it. (There are people on BBR working on unlock processes for this situation; however, so far nothing is confirmed).

Diggler
cron
QUOTE(TheDiggler @ 12-17-05, 2:29pm)
It's stronly recommended that you NOT upgrade to 3.1.7 (i.e. stick with 3.1.6 or earlier).  There are lengthy discussions on BroadBandReports how 3.1.7 now prevents firmware updates from being applied w/ merely "USER" access.


thanks....i must have been looking at a different thread over there then. (Removed the 3.1.7 config file from my previous post too)
vickh
having a problem with voipbuster and callpacket.

voipbuster makes a call just fine. called party can hear me ican't hear them

callpacket has a dial tone, but can't make calls at all. it just gives me busy signals after calling confused.gif
ungsunghero
QUOTE(vickh @ 12-30-05, 1:21pm)
having a problem with voipbuster and callpacket.

voipbuster makes a call just fine. called party can hear me ican't hear them

callpacket has a dial tone, but can't make calls at all. it just gives me busy signals after calling confused.gif
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Callpacket/Telepacket has been having loads of trouble for the past week or so.

Speculation is that they're toast...someone reported that they wrote $21,000 worth of bad checks a few months ago.

For the record, I cannot make outgoing calls, but incoming calls now work...

And as far as VoIPBuster is concerned, here's how I fixed that same problem:

1) Log in to your PAP2 and go to the SIP tab.
2) Select "yes" for "STUN enable"
3) Under "STUN server" type "stun.voipbuster.com"
ungsunghero
Also notice that http://www.telepacket.com and http://www.callpacket.com do not work, but https://www.telepacket.com and https://www.callpacket.com do.
vickh
called callpackets tollfree # busy...

Any alternatives to callpacket and voipbuster?

stanaphone's area codes are all long distance to me. Loooking for phoenix or houston area codes.

any other sites for me to research this? no.gif
cron
QUOTE(vickh @ 12-30-05, 3:34pm)
any other sites for me to research this? no.gif


dslreports has a fairly current discussion. Voipbuster has been giving me an occasional busy signal, so i'll probably be looking for an alternative as well.

Let us know if you find anything.
vickh
will do..

does the PAP2 work without routers?

my parents have a cablemodem setup in India where they pay for data by MBs/not unlimited. So they only connect to the net when they need to (kinda like dialup here)

They have a different ip each time they sign on. They can use voipbuster pc software just fine. Will PAP2 also work?
cron
Voipbuster now charges for US calls. It looks like i'll definitely be looking for a new provider now.
Nickster
QUOTE(vickh @ 12-30-05, 3:50pm)
will do..

does the PAP2 work without routers?

my parents have a cablemodem setup in India where they pay for data by MBs/not unlimited. So they only connect to the net when they need to (kinda like dialup here)

They have a different ip each time they sign on. They can use voipbuster pc software just fine. Will PAP2 also work?
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Yes it (PAP2)will work without a router. Adding the router actually makes setup a bit more difficult.
ungsunghero
QUOTE(cron @ 1-4-06, 5:32pm)
Voipbuster now charges for US calls.  It looks like i'll definitely be looking for a  new provider now.
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Boooooo....
cron
http://www.voipstunt.com/en/index.html

the same voipbuster company keeps creating new one's.

Not sure if i'm willing to try these other one's out though because they start out with a lot of free phone calls and then start turning them off after a while.
ungsunghero
QUOTE(cron @ 1-4-06, 5:46pm)
http://www.voipstunt.com/en/index.html

the same voipbuster company keeps creating new one's.

Not sure if i'm willing to try these other one's out though because they start out with a lot of free phone calls and then start turning them off after a while.
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Agreed...I'm not paying another $6 so I can get a month's worth of free US calls rolleyesold.gif
Nickster
QUOTE(ungsunghero @ 1-4-06, 7:48pm)
Agreed...I'm not paying another $6 so I can get a month's worth of free US calls rolleyesold.gif
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Are you looking for a free service or a pay service?
ungsunghero
QUOTE(Nickster @ 1-4-06, 6:09pm)
Are you looking for a free service or a pay service?
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Well right now I'm on VoIPBuster and Telepacket.

Seeing as how Telepacket has been flaky over the past month or so, I don't know if I can rely on their service.

The sad thing is, I just need a phone line to use with the intercom system here at my apartment complex, so I don't need a ton of minutes. That's why Telepacket (0.95/mo for 100 incoming + 100 outgoing) was such an attractive offer.

As far as VoIPBuster is concerned, I suppose EUR 0.01 ($0.012 USD) per minute isn't terrible.

All I really need is a cheap service that'll give me a local phone number.
Nickster
QUOTE(ungsunghero @ 1-4-06, 8:18pm)
Well right now I'm on VoIPBuster and Telepacket.

Seeing as how Telepacket has been flaky over the past month or so, I don't know if I can rely on their service.

The sad thing is, I just need a phone line to use with the intercom system here at my apartment complex, so I don't need a ton of minutes.  That's why Telepacket (0.95/mo for 100 incoming + 100 outgoing) was such an attractive offer.

As far as VoIPBuster is concerned, I suppose EUR 0.01 ($0.012 USD) per minute isn't terrible.

All I really need is a cheap service that'll give me a local phone number.
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What about this one?

https://www.stanaphone.com/
ungsunghero
QUOTE(Nickster @ 1-4-06, 6:49pm)
What about this one?

https://www.stanaphone.com/
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The problem with Stanaphone is that they only offer NY local phone #s...I'm here on the other coast tongue.gif
ellory
QUOTE(ungsunghero @ 1-4-06, 6:58pm)
The problem with Stanaphone is that they only offer NY local phone #s...I'm here on the other coast tongue.gif
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Why does it matter? A number is a number.
vickh
re: the voipstunt PAP settings?

1)just replace stun.voipbuster.com w/ stun.voipstunt.com?

2)can you use the same login?
ungsunghero
QUOTE(ellory @ 1-5-06, 12:45am)
Why does it matter?  A number is a number.
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It matters because the primary use of this phone number is to accept incoming "calls" from our intercom system here in this apartment complex, which requires a local phone number.
TheDiggler
For those wanting to run 2 VoIP services off of ONE PHONE PORT on their PAP2, there's a great new solution posted at BBR:
Configure Line1 on your PAP2 with two VoSPs

The first post on the 2nd page of the thread contains the following ZIP FILE:
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.ZIP

This ZIP file contains a firmware file to convert the PAP2 into a Sipura SPA-1001 as well as another firmware file to revert the SPA-1001 back into a PAP2. Somebody please host a copy of this ZIP file for B$ because it'll likely get yanked off of BBR once Linksys/Sipura gets wind of this!

The SPA-1001 is a SINGLE PHONE PORT VoIP adapter providing bi-directional configuration capabilities of 2 VoIP "services" (i.e. phone lines). Both services work for INCOMING & OUTGOING calls on the single phone port. To dial out on the "2nd line", you simply preceed calls with the "#" key.

With SPA-1001 firmware loaded onto the PAP2:

1) Only one indicator light funtions on the PAP2: ETHERNET indicator

2) The PHYSICAL PORT for LINE2 no longer works (as the SPA-1001 is a SINGLE PORT adapter)

3) The adapter is no longer susceptible to being re-locked by Vonage even if you perform a FACTORY RESET!!! Loading this firmware truly converts the adapter into an UNLOCKED DEVICE.

4) You no longer need to configure any CALL FORWARDING settiings to have 2 VoIP services working off of one phone port!

Diggler

*EDIT* A B$ backup of the Zip File is available here (thanks to krunk).

*EDIT2* Newer versions of SPA1001 firmware (3.1.12 and higher) apparently DO RESTORE Vonage Factorty Default Settings! Read here for more details!
cron
wow...nice info.

Makes it a lot easier to use some of these cheap services.
TheDiggler
IMO it makes sense to add the SPA-1001 info to the following post as an alternate method:
How to forward all inbound calls to the OTHER line

Diggler
ungsunghero
This is really weird...

So Telepacket has been working on and off for the past week (outgoing calls work fine, incoming calls ring, and that's it).

I decided to remove all aspects of VoIPBuster from my PAP2, since I wasn't planning on using their service any more, and now the Telepacket line works fine blink.gif

Just to be sure, I set up Telepacket on line 1 (it was on line 2), and VoIPBuster on line 2, and the Telepacket line was having the same problem. Not to mention, VoIPBuster wasn't working either...whenever I tried to make a phone call, all I got was a busy signal.

Anyone have an idea on what might have happened?
Krunk
just a heads up for those that don't mind a washington #. IPKall ( http://www.ipkall.com/ ) gives you a phone # and works in conjuction FWD (free world dialup http://www.freeworldialup.com ) for free. no monthly charge. the only thing you have to remember is to call yourself at least once every month or they cancel your account due to inactivity.

wasn't sure if this was mentioned before. just giving another alternative to u guys.

//krunk (^_^x)
Krunk
QUOTE(TheDiggler @ 1-12-06, 3:42pm)
The first post on the 2nd page of the thread contains the following ZIP FILE:
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.ZIP

This ZIP file contains a firmware file to convert the PAP2 into a Sipura SPA-1001 as well as another firmware file to revert the SPA-1001 back into a PAP2.  Somebody please host a copy of this ZIP file for B$ because it'll likely get yanked off of BBR once Linksys/Sipura gets wind of this!
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here's a backup if needed:
http://www.krunk4ever.org/NOTHING_TO_SEE_HERE.zip

//krunk (^_^x)
TheDiggler
Thanks Krunk. I edited my posted and added your link. wink.gif
Pekkle
Need a little more clearifcation about the GPP K and GPP D strings. Since the PAP2 is unlocked, and we have the control of admin password for the PAP2, why do we still need to mess around with GPP K? what is the benfit of obtaining the admin password for vonage? if I don't ever plan on using the PAP2 on Vonage, should I still need to worry about the GPP K string that's on the router currently? or can I safely remove it from PAP2?

and will I need GPP K for other VOIP companies such as voipbuster or skype?

Also, can some one please post the settings needed for skype? I would rather use skype than those other ones..

Thanks..
Krunk
QUOTE(Pekkle @ 1-16-06, 7:10pm)
Need a little more clearifcation about the GPP K and GPP D strings. Since the PAP2 is unlocked, and we have the control of admin password for the PAP2, why do we still need to mess around with GPP K? what is the benfit of obtaining the admin password for vonage? if I don't ever plan on using the PAP2 on Vonage, should I still need to worry about the GPP K string that's on the router currently? or can I safely remove it from PAP2?

and will I need GPP K for other VOIP companies such as voipbuster or skype?

Also, can some one please post the settings needed for skype? I would rather use skype than those other ones..

Thanks..
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according to posts found on Skype's forums, because Skype uses a closed network instead of open SIP protocols, it is not compatible with devices like the PAP2. people have actually concluded to the point there is no stand-alone device that works with skype without a computer.

my sources:
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=37952&highlight=pap2
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=35103&highlight=pap2
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=31659&highlight=pap2

hope this helps.

//krunk (^_^x)
Pekkle
QUOTE(Krunk @ 1-16-06, 8:26pm)
according to posts found on Skype's forums, because Skype uses a closed network instead of open SIP protocols, it is not compatible with devices like the PAP2. people have actually concluded to the point there is no stand-alone device that works with skype without a computer.

my sources:
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=37952&highlight=pap2
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=35103&highlight=pap2
http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=31659&highlight=pap2

hope this helps.

//krunk (^_^x)
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Hi krunk, Thanks for the quick reply, I thought since netgear is coming out with a wifi phone for skype, then there should be a way to use it on voip routers, but I guess not.. smile.gif

How about GPP K? Do I really need to crack the admin password for voange to consider fully unlocked?
Pekkle
QUOTE(cron @ 10-14-05, 4:27pm)
To get voipbuster to work, I probably reinstalled the firmware on these about three times.  I  kept screwing up all the settings after messing with it so much.

Finally today i decide to do something different.  I changed out the phone i was using and it started working.

bang.gif  lol.gif  bang.gif  lol.gif

lesson of the day....start with the simplest solutions first
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cron, does that means there is not a reset to default button that we can click on? (back to a clean unlock state that is).
TheDiggler
QUOTE(Pekkle @ 1-16-06, 11:10pm)
Need a little more clearifcation about the GPP K and GPP D strings. Since the PAP2 is unlocked, and we have the control of admin password for the PAP2, why do we still need to mess around with GPP K? what is the benfit of obtaining the admin password for vonage? if I don't ever plan on using the PAP2 on Vonage, should I still need to worry about the GPP K string that's on the router currently? or can I safely remove it from PAP2?

The GPP_K and GPP_D values stored in your Vonage PAP2 are for use by Vonage and no one else. The adapter, by default, does not have a GPP_D value stored in it. It receives one of these values if/when the adapter "phones home" to Vonage.

Should your adapter "phone home" to Vonage, it will receive a new set of adapter settings, among which include a new GPP_K value, a populated GPP_D value, new user & admin passwords, and will re-lock your adapter & turn off its web interface! Furthermore, it will likely perform a firmware upgrade to the latest version of the PAP2 firmware (which now makes it extremely difficult to unlock the adapter w/o knowing your adapter's admin pw).

By storing your "factory fresh" GPP_K value off to the side, you can use it to download and decrypt your Vonage XML Provisioning file(s) at will. A very slick Windows program posted @ BBR, VuckFonage, has been written to automate this process as much as possible.

Since the unlocking process instructs you to disable automatic provisioning, in theory your adapter should never "phone home" to Vonage. HOWEVER, if you perform a FACTORY RESET on the adapter while it's connected to the internet... POOF! It will immediately "phone home," change its settings, lock itself, and upgrade its firmware. Without your FACTORY FRESH GPP_K value saved off to the side, you won't be able to download and decrypt your PRIMARY XML provisioning file (which will contain your admin pw at that time).

If you perform a FACTORY RESET while the PAP2 is NOT connected to the internet, the adapter will still get re-locked; however, you can repeat the standard unlocking process to re-unlock it.

Note: If you switch your adapter over to SPA-1001 firmware, there is no chance of it re-locking even if it "phones home" to Vonage. This is because the PAP2 XML config files aren't compatible w/ SPA-1001 firmware. Also, performing a FACTORY RESET w/ the adapter in SPA-1001 mode wipes out all configured settings (including the Vonage settings) and keeps the adapter UNLOCKED.

I hope this answers your question(s).

Diggler
Pekkle
QUOTE(TheDiggler @ 1-16-06, 10:14pm)
I hope this answers your question(s).
Diggler
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Diggler, Thank you very very much for the detail information, I have learned a lot from your post, so I have saved the GPP K's string just in case I ever need it. So far I have been able to use stanaphone, but not voipbuster for some reason, no dial tone and my account has been activated since Aug last year, the only thing I can think of that is not working is I have only $1 in the account, which the refill takes min $10. don't know if that is the problem.
vickh
is it possible to use PAP2 w/ PPPoE connection
Pekkle
has anyone tried the voipstunt.com and got it to work? I would like to know the settings if possible.. thanks..
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