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Arkayz
Well I got all my parts finally yesterday for my new computer (new motherboard and cpu anyway). After many struggles yesterday and this morning I finally got everything up and running. I was having problems with the computer booting up, and sometimes it would freeze up in the BIOS settings, and then other times I would press power and nothing would happen. So I was afraid the cpu or motherboard was dead, or maybe my ram was fried.

I ended up going to Circuit City and buying an Antec Sonata to see if maybe the problem was the power supply. Since I already have an Antec Sonata I just swapped the power supplies from case to case. I have everything setup now and have not had a single issue (aside from not being able to get my new firewire external case working ANY IDEAS ON THIS? It's a dual and the USB works fine). So I guess my power supply had something wrong with it.

ANYWAY, the reason for the post. What is a normal CPU and case temp for an AMD 64? Right now I am at 39 C for the CPU temp and 26 C for the case temp. Am I running too hot, or am I ok?
Alan
Looks good to me. The max temp for the AMD 64 is 70 C.
See here for more info: http://139.95.253.213/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI....,Case=obj(4271)
Arkayz
QUOTE(Alan @ 12-17-04, 5:16pm)
Looks good to me.  The max temp for the AMD 64 is 70 C. 
See here for more info: http://139.95.253.213/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI....,Case=obj(4271)
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Great thanks. I am maxing out at about 55 C running Prime95's torture test.

BTW any ideas on the firewire thing? I'm thinking its the external case that doesn't want to work, but I don't have any other firewire devices to test the ports on the computer. And none seem to work, I tried the one on the front of the case which is connected to the pin outs on the motherboard, tried the one on the I/O panel (which is the one that I would assume would work), and tried a couple ports on a USB/Firewire card I have installed. Still no go, like I said the USB works fine.
Alan
Concerning the firewire thing these are the first things I would check:
Are the drivers installed?
Does a firewire controller appear in Device Manager?
Does the firewire device appear in device manager?
If the device appears, does it have a symbol next to it like ! ? or X
Does the Firewire case work on another computer?
Arkayz
QUOTE(Alan @ 12-17-04, 9:19pm)
Concerning the firewire thing these are the first things I would check:
Are the drivers installed?
Does a firewire controller appear in Device Manager?
Does the firewire device appear in device manager?
If the device appears, does it have a symbol next to it like ! ? or X
Does the Firewire case work on another computer?
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The controller is installed, no errors in device manager. When I plug it in nothing shows up. Unfortunately I don't have access to another system with firewire. However, there are two connections on the back of the enclosure, one has to be a passthrough. A cable was included with one end that is real small (male) and the other end is the typical U shaped larger male connector. I assumed this was to go from enclosure to computer, and the other input (also a large U shaped female) was for the passthrough.

I do have a laptop that has firewire, but the input on that one is the small female connection, and I don't have a male to plug into that, unless I reverse it and plug the cable that came with the enclosure into the small end and then the other larger U male end into the enclosure.

Hope any of that makes sense. tongue.gif lol
Alan
Alright then....is the firewire case plugged in?
Did the firewire case work in the past?
Sorry to ask such elementary questions, but sometimes it's something simple that got overlooked.
Arkayz
QUOTE(Alan @ 12-17-04, 10:06pm)
Alright then....is the firewire case plugged in?
Did the firewire case work in the past?
Sorry to ask such elementary questions, but sometimes it's something simple that got overlooked.
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Yes its plugged in.

I don't know, this is the first time I've tried to use the Firewire portion, the USB works perfectly though.

I remembered that I had a video camera with firewire ports though. It works fine on my adaptec duo connect card, so I decided to try the hard drive, it did not work. However I have two of the same enclosure, and I tried the second one on the adaptec firewire ports and it seems to be working. However, none of the ports directly connected to the motherboard seems to work. There only two of those, one on the front panel of the case and one on the I/O panel. I still have one firewire header free on the motherboard, the other one being taken up by the afore mentioned front case connector.

I just tested, and my video camera and one of the hard drives works fine if I connect them to the adaptec duo connect pci card. Neither seem to work with the case and motherboard connector.
Arkayz
Ok well I tested both enclosures, and I guess one of them the firewire connector is broken or something. I plugged them both into the same port using the same firewire cable and only the one gets detected, the other one nothing happens. And the USB works fine on it.

Still can't figure out why the firewire connectors on my motherboard don't work though.
Alan
QUOTE(Arkayz @ 12-18-04, 1:29am)
Ok well I tested both enclosures, and I guess one of them the firewire connector is broken or something. I plugged them both into the same port using the same firewire cable and only the one gets detected, the other one nothing happens. And the USB works fine on it.

Still can't figure out why the firewire connectors on my motherboard don't work though.
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Trial and error. Troubleshooting can be such fun! lol.gif

For the connectors on the motherboard, what's the brand, model and revision? Try doing a search to see how others have solved the issue. It could very well be a misprint in the manual or board. Last year I was helping a friend build a system. I forget which motherboard, but some jumper settings were misprinted in the manual. Talk about going crazy trying to figure that one out. A quick Google reveald the issue.
Arkayz
QUOTE(Alan @ 12-18-04, 6:58am)
Trial and error.  Troubleshooting can be such fun! lol.gif

For the connectors on the motherboard, what's the brand, model and revision?  Try doing a search to see how others have solved the issue.  It could very well be a misprint in the manual or board.  Last year I was helping a friend build a system.  I forget which motherboard, but some jumper settings were misprinted in the manual.  Talk about going crazy trying to figure that one out.  A quick Google reveald the issue.
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Thanks for the help Alan, finally got the back one working. So the only one left is the front.

I'm pretty sure the problem is the pins that were included with my case (Antec Sonata). It only has 6 pins to connect to the motherboard firewire header, which has 9 pins (or maybe it was 10). Well I could not figure out how to connect it so I called Antec. The Sonata I got only has 1 ground wire and one power wire and the motherboard has one of those on each row. Basically he told me to connect both to one row and leave the other row empty and it would work. Evidently it didn't, or I didn't connect it right.

Incidentally the new Antec case I went to get to test the power supply, the firewire pins are all molded into a VERY convenient connector that just needs to be plugged into the firewire header on the motherboard.

My latest problem is that I can't get my monitor to display at 1600x1200 (I have a Dell 20 in lcd). I'm using a loaner video card while my ATI AIW 9700 Pro gets fixed (hopefully), its an extasy radeon 9200 SE. Every other display mode works great, but when I try 1600x1200 it seems ok, but when i click on something like the start menu the monitor flickers on and off. I'm hoping its just this cheap video card and not something more serious with the AGP slot or something.
Alan
My first suggestion is to change the Hz and see if that helps.
Here's some info:
Radeon 9200 Series Specifications

2D display modes:
Resolutions, colors and maximum refresh rates (Hz) in 256, 65K or 16.7M colors:
Monitor Resolution / Hz
640x480 / 200
800x600 / 200
1024x768 / 200
1152x864 / 200
1280x1024 / 160
1600x1200 / 120
1920x1080* 16:9 / 120
1920x1200 / 100
1920x1440 / 90
2048x1536 / 85

*16:9 aspect ratio monitors are supported on 1920x1080 and 848x480 on Microsoft® Windows® XP, Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and Microsoft® Windows® Me. The complete list of resolutions depends on the driver version and operating system. NOTE: resolutions are limited by the performance of the attached monitor. DVI-I monitors will be limited to 1600x1200.
NARC
Arkayz!!!!!

What motherboard are you using?

Here's my situation:

AMD 64, using an ASUS mobo, socket 939 (can't remember the model exactly) Antec sonata.

I hooked up my front Firewire as described in the manual (yes there are not enough pins compared to what the mobo wants) yadda yadda yadda I fried a resistor on the mobo. If i can remember right it was J28.

The only way I noticed was because I was running it with the door opened to ensure all of my fans were going to start up; the resistor burned up very brightly and I found the scorched resistor.

It has not effected anything else, but I've got no Firewire now, and I'm sure that's what it is.
NARC
Alan,

He's running an LCD... Arkayz you will need to see what hz your LCD accepts, but yes it definitely sounds like a card limitation.
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