Good idea Alan

For the moment I ended up buying this but will continue to look around before picking it up. Also use it as leverage at other places. The sale ends tonight and also after my purchase there is none left available in my area for pickup

has a good rating...pretty.

.....So after the delivery rebate the $50 more cost is better than having to go pick the other one up, install it and dispose of the old one myself

Going rate to pick up a stove or fridge at the curb is $25 around here, unless your trash provider provides that as a 'freebie'.

I would like to know if the Frigidaire range when in convection mode turns off the fan when the oven door is opened.

ended up now getting just about an hour ago one from lowes. showed them my invoice and item and they came as close as they could..only $47 more at $547 for a similar one they have. which was regular price of $758. actually maybe a little better since it has a 12inch burner where I think the other one may not have had. same brand and all other features. They are delivering it in a couple of hours. So after the delivery rebate the $50 more cost is better than having to go pick the other one up, install it and dispose of the old one myself

lol..since this is the first time we have ever had a convection oven I will have to let you know as soon as she learns how to use it although my guess would be yes

manual say yes it does

Our Jenn-Aire convection fan would turn off when the door was opened, but it took it a second or two before it slowed down. You have to be careful too, putting your face too close with the door open while checking the cooking progress in convection mode can melt your eyebrows and eyelashes. I got hit with a blast of hot air a few times while checking on a pizza.

Note that convection mode is great for top browning a pizza without overcooking the bottom crust. You cook it in normal mode until the almost cooked then turn on the convection for the last 2-5 minutes while turning up the heat just enough to kick the heat source back on.

'Dollars for dishwashers' appliance rebate program coming
By JOHN BARTOSEK
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 04, 2009

Since the "cash for clunkers" program went from a billion to broke in just a week, the $17.5 million in the state's "dollars for dishwashers" program may fly just as quickly.

Like the car rebate, which was "almost economic lighter fluid" for dealers, a run on appliances is likely to follow - and just in time for Christmas, says the state energy office director.

You don't hear much about Florida's Energy Star appliance rebate program because the rules aren't set yet. The plan calls for money back for buying a dishwasher, refrigerator, clothes washer, freezer or other appliance - all more likely to fit a household budget than a new car these days.

The deadline is next week for Florida to apply for the federal stimulus money, and Jeremy Susac says, "There's no doubt we'll do it." His job in Gov. Crist's energy office is to work with the Florida Energy and Climate Commission to set the rules. The first workshop is Monday in Tallahassee.

Among the questions:

•Will it be offered only to low-income families, or be first-come-first-served?
The broader the target, of course, the faster the money will go. The state's solar energy rebate program, in effect since 2006, consistently uses all the money allocated before the year is up.

•Is that new refrigerator you buy this month eligible, or must you wait until the program officially starts, likely in mid-December?
The feds will decide if it's retroactive, Susac says.

•Will it apply only to American-made appliances?
"I will recommend 'yes,' " Susac says.

•What's the rebate worth?
Paybacks will vary, probably a couple hundred dollars per appliance, and the state may set a total rebate limit per household. The list of eligible appliances isn't set, but all must carry the "Energy Star" rating.

"Anything will help," says Bobby Johnson, senior vice president for Brandsmart, a major appliance dealer. "The key is to make it (the rebate) substantial money. If they do it for front-load washer and dryer, for example, that's good for retail, good for the consumer, good for the environment. It just depends on the details."

You do know some of that stimulus money is being used to train the unemploy(able) to become Green Energy techs. In other words, after completing the tax funded program, these techs will go around making their neighbors cribs more energy efficient. Of course being low-income or living in the right zip code is mandatory.

Tom Markey, a stimulus coordinator at the U.S. Department of Labor, said there is no reason to wait. The Departments of Energy and Labor said in their July 24 letter to states and nonprofits receiving the money that "state and local agencies should be weatherizing homes now."

"Davis-Bacon prevailing wage rates for residential construction exist in just about every part of the country, therefore, any state or community-action agency could have begun work as soon as they received their funds by paying these existing prevailing wage rates," Markey said.

Several recipients of that letter told the AP said they are wary of following such advice because, they say, federal officials have previously been unclear on whether existing wage levels for other occupations would apply to weatherization work. They also reject the suggestion from federal officials they could simply issue back pay should the weatherization rates eventually be set at a higher wage, saying it could cause an administrative mess.

Anybody hear about this? This may be Florida only. I live in FL and I just bought a dishwasher My wife wants a new fridge, but it's probably another program I won't qualify for. Double

Lowes didn't have the SHE45 model I wanted, not even for special delivery in my area. Sears has it, but I don't feel like running around to stores for a dishwasher. We were told by the Lowe's guy that Bosch discontinued the model and there will be another model replacing it, but it's not in their system yet.

We went with the SHE43 instead. The SHE45 has some features that the SHE43 doesn't, but I'm not concerned about it. The guts are the same. However, if they had the SHE45 available I would have gotten it.

Price was $478.40 with the 20% off. We also needed a flexible water supply line and a power cord. I'm really surprised the dishwasher doesn't come with these accessories. I didn't want to use the power cord or water supply line from my old dishwasher as they're 15-16 years old. The small cost for these items is nothing compared to an electrical problem or potential water leak.

We didn't go for the credit offer (free delivery, hookup & haul-away after rebate). I'm not getting another credit card to save $100 on a deal due to my stance against getting more credit cards (don't need or want them).

Bottom line - my wife is happy, so it's a great deal

For the same money I still think we could have gotten a lifetime supply of soap & sponges

Latest in Stimulus: 'Cash for Refrigerators'
Coming this fall, a clunkers-type program to boost sales of energy-efficient home appliances will authorize rebates of $50 to $200

A $300 million cash-for-clunkers-type federal program to boost sales of energy-efficient home appliances provides a glimmer of hope for beleaguered makers of washing machines and dishwashers, but it's probably not enough to lift companies such as Whirlpool (WHR) and Electrolux out of the worst down cycle in the sector's history.

Beginning late this fall, the program authorizes rebates of $50 to $200 for purchases of high-efficiency household appliances. The money is part of the broader economic stimulus bill passed earlier this year. Program details will vary by state, and the Energy Dept. has set a deadline of Oct. 15 for states to file formal applications. The Energy Dept. expects the bulk of the $300 million to be awarded by the end of November. (Unlike the clunkers auto program, consumers won't have to trade in their old appliances.)

"These rebates will help families make the transition to more efficient appliances, making purchases that will directly stimulate the economy," Energy Secretary Steven Chu said in a statement announcing the plan. Only appliances covered by the Energy Star seal will qualify. In 2008, about 55% of newly produced major household appliances met those standards, which are set by the Energy Dept. and Environmental Protection Agency.

The money can't come soon enough for the home appliance industry, which is mired in an unprecedented sales slump that began when the housing market cooled in 2006. Since then that slump has worsened considerably. Shipments of washers, dryers, refrigerators, and ovens dropped 10% in 2008 and are down 15% through July, according to the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers. "It's brutal," says Raymond James (RJF) analyst Sam Darkatsh.

a marketing push around rebates
The leading appliance makers have felt the pinch. Whirlpool of Benton Harbor, Mich., which controls about 40% of the U.S. market, has seen its sales drop 20% through the first two quarters of this year. North American shipments for its Stockholm-based rival Electrolux, meanwhile, have dropped for a dozen consecutive quarters. Both companies have laid off hundreds of workers, and General Electric (GE) mulled shutting down an entire refrigerator plant earlier this year until deciding to keep it open with a reduced workforce.

Not surprisingly, appliance makers cheered the news. Electrolux spokesman Tony Evans calls the federal program a "great opportunity to encourage consumers to replace their old appliances." Lately, cash-strapped consumers have chosen to repair, rather than replace, hobbled dishwashers and other water-intensive appliances, according to industry analysts. Electrolux says it is readying "aggressive" marketing programs that will run parallel with the rebates, and it's reasonable to expect appliance makers and retailers will devise additional discounts to amplify the rebates' appeal. "We will be ready to go when the new incentive programs hit the market," Evans said.

Unlike the popular, $3 billion cash-for-clunkers vehicle program, which ends on Aug. 24, there's no guarantee that hard-hit consumers are prepared to plump for new washers, stoves, and fridges. The federal outlay will piggyback on rebate programs for energy-saving appliances that have existed for years in more than 25 states, but which have largely failed to spur demand. Home improvement retailers like Home Depot (HD) and Lowe's (LOW) have also offered deep discounts on big-ticket appliances lately, with little impact.

"The cash-for-clunkers [program] had a discernible value proposition for the consumer, because he knows how much his [clunker] is worth," says Darkatsh, the Raymond James analyst. "With appliances, there is no trade-in. You can walk into Home Depot and get a great deal on a home appliance any time you want one. Why would it drum up sales now?" Laura Champine, an analyst with Cowen & Co. (COWN), agrees. "I'm not sure if it will be as powerful as cash for clunkers because there is something compelling about that $4,500 discount," she says. "Also, a new car is more fun than a new dishwasher. So I'm not sure if it will be as much of a driver, but any driver is welcome right now."

Stock Market Overreaction
Analysts also believe that the stock market's reaction to the program is overblown. Whirlpool's shares rose 6% on Aug. 20 when news of the program circulated, and climbed another 5% the following session. "That's silly," says Darkatsh. He estimates that in a best-case scenario the rebates will equate to about $240 million in incremental sales for Whirlpool. But that's unlikely, as it assumes that every American buying under the voucher program would not have done so otherwise. "The vast majority would have bought them anyway," as purchases of appliances such as fridges and washing machines are far less discretionary than, say, cars or big-screen televisions, Darkatsh says.

The recession's ability to blunt the program's impact was underscored by a call to the California Energy Commission to discuss its approach to the rebate program. The entire state office is on unpaid furlough each Friday in August; no one picked up the telephone.

apparently they were out of the model in my area as well...I am back at square 1.
they have changed the models and what Lowe's is offering me as a replacement isn't even on the Bosch site. I can still get 20% + 10% deal. what a pain!!

Alan, how do you and wifey like yours?

Deja, can't you go to the manufacturer's website and get the info your looking for?

the model # that Lowe's is telling me is the replacement is not on the manufacturer's website.

Lowes in the columbus oh area has the bosch SHX45P05UC for sale @ 598$. I found this online, dont know about the stores...

Lowest Price on google = 849...

They had a similar thing that went on last Xmas when I bought my parents dishwasher... I ordered it online around 5am and when I woke up in the morning the price changed +300$. I went and picked up the dishwasher later that week w/ no problems.

Good Luck
-Matt

BTW... I cant get it to link so... just check under stainless steel and it should be located around the other 998 dishwashers...

One last thing... it shows "Reflects lower local price"... so make sure you put in your area before checking...

Anyone interested in a refrigerator? Both of these are $638.40 at Lowes + free delivery:

Whirlpool 25.1 Cu. Ft. Side-by-Side Refrigerator (Color: Black) ENERGY STAR
Whirlpool 25.1 Cu. Ft. Side-by-Side Refrigerator (Color: White) ENERGY STAR

They initially show up as $798.00, but price drops to $638.40 when you enter your zip code. I don't know if you could swing a lower price with a 10% off moving coupon in-store??