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partialinsomniac
Being the slow person I am, I just realized a few days ago that I still haven't submitted my rebates from last month's OM Mailstation deal. The form makes note that submissions should be postmarked 14 days after purchase, which makes this a full two weeks late.

Has anyone had any experiences with late submissions? Do you think they'd let this one pass? Thanks. bang.gif
tcarebates
If you mail it in now, it will surely be denied because you missed the postmark deadline.
But, I have heard that if you call the rebate center and ask about your "submission", they of course will tell you that they have not received it, and will ask you to "re-send" it.

I'm not advocating doing this, just passing along what I've heard.
binkie94
You definitely don't want to send it in. Just wait a few weeks and call them to check on it's status tongue.gif When they don't find it in the system they'll have you resubmit it.
mydeal
What binkie94 is advocating and tcarebates is suggesting while trying hard not to advocate it sounds like fraud to me.
dewolfxy
That's funny, it sounds like a good idea to me. This would be nearly impossible to prove as fraud, since they would have to prove you didn't already submit something and have it get lost (at the rebate center or in the mail). And since you actually did buy the product and are entitled to the rebate, it's a stretch to call it fraud in any case.
mydeal
QUOTE(dewolfxy @ 10-15-2003 - 09:10 AM)
That's funny, it sounds like a good idea to me. This would be nearly impossible to prove as fraud, since they would have to prove you didn't already submit something and have it get lost (at the rebate center or in the mail). And since you actually did buy the product and are entitled to the rebate, it's a stretch to call it fraud in any case.

I agree it would be nearly impossible to prove as fraud. However, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think it looks like fraud.

If partialinsomniac is "entitled to the rebate" he should just send it in now. I would suggest that he is not, and scheming to get the rebate without following the terms of the rebate looks like fraud to me... maybe there is a better word for it, but I think fraud conveys the meaning.

I've said my piece... more pieces to come.
carloscai
Call them and ask them as suggested. But just mail the photocopy to them, indicating that you really have lost the original ones in the "first" submission.

But how much money is that rebate for? Is it enough for you to tell a lie?
Kat
QUOTE(mydeal @ 10-15-2003 - 11:29 AM)
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I've said my peace and will leave it at that.

HI and welcome to bargainshare. Thank you for your contribution.
While I admire you for not backing down, I would like to point out that
it helps your case if you use the proper spelling.

Peace? Did you mean piece?

It takes at lot of the oomph out of a statement when the proper word is not used!

HTH
HAND!

Enjoy your stay with us. smile.gif
cron
QUOTE(katballoo @ 10-15-2003 - 05:33 PM)
It takes at lot of the oomph out of a statement when the proper word is not used!


Not for me.

<---overlooks spelling mistakes on the internet


QUOTE(mydeal)
What binkie94 is advocating and tcarebates is suggesting while trying hard not to advocate it sounds like fraud to me.


regarding this statement.......

i would personally give binkie94 and tcarebates the benefit of the doubt .....

tcarebates is a representative of the TCA Rebates. I would very much doubt that he would even remotely suggest any type of fraud. If he is suggesting it for another company, then I am assuming similar suggested actions would be acceptable with his own company. That is why I don't believe that tcarebates would even suggest any type of fraudulent activity even with a competitor.

my two cents smile.gif
binkie94
I'm not advocating anything.

Partial can do whatever he wants or feels is best for him.
smitty094
while I would not have any problems with a misspelling or grammatical error (I'm sure I've made about 1000 here in my posts), the feelings in this thread are strong since mydeal has said that some very productive members are advocating fraud.

I think mydeal's and the general opinion here differ in the general idea of rebates. I have done so many rebates that have mysteriously disappeared, have been denied for reasons that were not correct (you'd be surprised how many times a UPC code has been entered wrong for me, or the postmark date).

That said, I can see where you are coming from, but if the rebate companies can make "mistakes" on my rebates all the time, if I make a mistake on one of my rebates, that should be ok too.


In my opinion what entitles a person to a rebate is buying the product. I would see it as wrong to submit a rebate for a product which the person really didn't purchase.


I think the important thing here is not to judge another person by a response to any thread, none of us know each other well enough to judge anyone. In my opinion, it is not our place to judge people at all.


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Kat
Very well said smitty.
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And cgomes. Please don't attack me just because you are upset with me.
You wouldn't have posted here otherwise.
tcarebates
This is an ugly word, this "fraud".

I never meant to imply that anyone should commit an immoral act. I personally would not do that - as I stated in my post, "I am not advocating it".

My purpose in posting it was that I HAVE seen it posted in another site (and inquiring minds want to know). I am simply passing along raw data. Each individual will act according to his conscience.

Back on the subject of missing the postmark deadline (that is the subject of this thread, is it not?), I have personal opinions on the fairness of denying a rebate that is submitted slightly late, but my opinions do not count at all. At TCA, and all other rebate houses, if you miss the postmark deadline, your submission will be denied.


...and lay off Kat - she was a teacher in a former life and can't help herself...I like teachers - you do something wrong, and they make you do it over again.
mydeal
QUOTE(katballoo @ 10-15-2003 - 04:33 PM)
Peace? Did you mean piece?

It takes at lot of the oomph out of a statement when the proper word is not used!

Thanks for the correction... I'll edit my post. Feel free to PM with any additional grammar help I may need.

Since it appears that my position on this may not be clear, let me also edit out the "and leave it at that" and add "... more pieces to come." smile.gif
QUOTE(cron @ 10-15-2003 - 04:53 PM)
i would personally give binkie94 and tcarebates the benefit of the doubt .....

tcarebates is a representative of the TCA Rebates. I would very much doubt that he would even remotely suggest any type of fraud. If he is suggesting it for another company, then I am assuming similar suggested actions would be acceptable with his own company. That is why I don't believe that tcarebates would even suggest any type of fraudulent activity even with a competitor.

I agree. I was a bit surprised to see this... one of my reasons for posting originally. Perhaps tcarebates was not suggesting anything at all, and I was just confused by the placement of some "raw data" in this thread. cool.gif
QUOTE(blinkie94 @ 10-15-2003 - 06:09 PM)
I'm not advocating anything.

Partial can do whatever he wants or feels is best for him.

Okay, this has me a bit confused. If not advocating, what would you call it? You said,
QUOTE(blinkie94 @ 10-14-2003 - 10:16 PM)
You definitely don't want to send it in. Just wait a few weeks and call them to check on it's status tongue.gif When they don't find it in the system they'll have you resubmit it.

Would "prescribing one course of action" be better than "advocating"?
I'm not trying to attack you (or anyone else) here, but I don't think my conclusion that you were "advocating" a course of action is such a big jump.
QUOTE(smitty094 @ 10-15-2003 - 07:35 PM)
I think mydeal's and the general opinion here differ in the general idea of rebates. I have done so many rebates that have mysteriously disappeared, have been denied for reasons that were not correct (you'd be surprised how many times a UPC code has been entered wrong for me, or the postmark date).

That said, I can see where you are coming from, but if the rebate companies can make "mistakes" on my rebates all the time, if I make a mistake on one of my rebates, that should be ok too.


In my opinion what entitles a person to a rebate is buying the product. I would see it as wrong to submit a rebate for a product which the person really didn't purchase.

I agree.

Can we agree that any rebate company that intentionally makes "mistakes" with rebates is committing fraud? In my mind, the idea advocated/suggested/offered/whatevered by tcarebates and blinkie94 are basically the same thing... except the parties involved are reversed.

I see the idea that "companies must follow the rules strictly but individuals have some leeway." frequently on web forums, and it doesn't make any sense to me. That's what I saw here, and it made me uneasy.
QUOTE(smitty094 @ 10-15-2003 - 07:35 PM)
I think the important thing here is not to judge another person by a response to any thread, none of us know each other well enough to judge anyone. In my opinion, it is not our place to judge people at all.

Agreed. It was not my intent to judge either tcarebates or blinkie94, I was just adding my perspective on it.
QUOTE(tcarebates @ 10-15-2003 - 10:03 PM)
This is an ugly word, this "fraud".

I never meant to imply that anyone should commit an immoral act. I personally would not do that - as I stated in my post, "I am not advocating it".

Let me say that I'm glad your on this board, and that I value your contributions here. My posts were not meant as an attack. If my assertion that you were "suggesting" a possible course of action is incorrect, my apologies. Perhaps I'm strange, but if someone came to me with a problem, I would feel strange about offering "raw data" (that could be interpreted as a solution to the problem) that I would not follow myself.

partialinsomniac: sorry for hijacking your thread.
dewolfxy
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dztech
From my experience, Parago does make note of the exact postmark date when they receive your submission. The only time I had a rebate validated when it was sent after the postmark deadline was when the rebate form said in one place "must be postmarked within 30 days of purchase" and further down in the fine print, it actually gave a date 2 months out. Due to the conflicting terms, it was validated.

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